Inevitability

by skjold, Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:34:19 PM EST

Didn't Hillary Clinton begin her primary campaign as the 'inevitable' nominee? How did that work out for her?

And now Jerome and others on MyDD make the argument that Hillary should be the nominee, because she would 'inevitably' win the general...

Remember this?



And this?



Am I missing something here? Maybe we don't know what the hell is going to happen in the general. Maybe we should realize that our predictions are wrong a lot of time.

Hindsight is 20/20, but your foresight lacks. Why haven't you learned your lesson in the past 6 months?




Tags: Inevitability, Hillary Clinton (all tags)

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The people have chosen. (2.00 / 3)

I'll take the 'gamble'.
by skjold on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:34:56 PM EST

Re: The people have chosen. (none / 0)

Sorry, you're candidate is no longer relevant and the game has shifted to Obama v. McSame.
Thank you playing.
"In the primary you should vote with your heart, but in the general, you should vote with your head" Hillary's husband
by venician on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:36:57 PM EST
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My candidate?! (2.00 / 2)

Did you even read the diary?
by skjold on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:39:15 PM EST
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Re: My candidate?! (none / 0)

Sorry, I jumped the gun.


"In the primary you should vote with your heart, but in the general, you should vote with your head" Hillary's husband
by venician on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:29:08 PM EST
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No problem, lol (none / 0)

Just read closer before you comment.
by skjold on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:30:29 PM EST
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Um (2.00 / 2)

Wasn't that what the diarist was saying?


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:39:31 PM EST
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Re: The people have chosen. (none / 0)

You DO realize that the diarist's candidate and your own are the same, right?


"If we can't live together... we're going to die alone."
by VAAlex on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:40:10 PM EST
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you are so knee-jerk (2.00 / 1)

you attack people misrepresenting FOR your candidate! oh lord, that is funny!


by zerosumgame on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:50:11 PM EST
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LOL mojo'ing (none / 0)

so nobody can hide this example of your reasoning skills :)


by zerosumgame on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:51:23 PM EST
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Re: LOL mojo'ing (none / 0)

Is that all you have left?
Ridiculing another Democrat in this blog community?
You really do play a zero sum game, don't you?
Let the children lose it Let the children use it Let all the children boogie
by toyomama on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:23:12 PM EST
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Re: LOL mojo'ing (2.00 / 1)

It's all he has left.


"In the primary you should vote with your heart, but in the general, you should vote with your head" Hillary's husband
by venician on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:29:55 PM EST
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Re: The people have chosen. (none / 0)

You have brought reflexive Hillary bashing to a new level.  I voted for Obama, I swear.  Don't hurt me dude :-)


I like baked beans.
by SpideyDem on Sat May 17, 2008 at 03:12:47 PM EST
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McSame is doooooomed. He's a sacrificial lamb. (none / 0)

The GOP thinks they can win by losing. They'll try to pin all of the crap on us. But this ain't the 90's. There is  more parity in information sharing now and the facts - in video many times - will stymie the GOP attempts to lie.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:38:44 PM EST

Re: McSame is doooooomed. He's a sacrificial lamb. (2.00 / 1)

I personally think Obama's gonna kick McSame's ass. But I won't throw the word 'inevitable' around like some people.
by skjold on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:41:21 PM EST
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Re: McSame is doooooomed. He's a sacrificial lamb. (none / 0)

Certainly anything can happen. It always takes hard work for Dems to win against the GOP and the corporate media. McSame's base as he calls them.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:44:19 PM EST
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please link where she claimed that (2.00 / 1)

since she does not say that in the clip you linked. I know how much easier it is to post about what you want her to have said, but that is a lie.


by zerosumgame on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:44:31 PM EST

WTF? (none / 0)

It's a video... She said what she said!
by skjold on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:45:32 PM EST
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Re: WTF? (2.00 / 1)

and at no time did she say "inevitable", so WTF right back at you.


by zerosumgame on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:48:50 PM EST
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Re: WTF? (none / 0)

I never said she did say 'inevitable'. It sure looks like she thought she was. But that's not my point anyway. The traditional media called it that way, and threw around that word hundreds of times.
by skjold on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:51:16 PM EST
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did you read your own diary? (2.00 / 1)

Didn't Hillary Clinton begin her primary campaign as the 'inevitable' nominee? How did that work out for her?


by zerosumgame on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:52:54 PM EST
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Re: did you read your own diary? (2.00 / 1)

And I never said she called it that. Everyone else did.

She's not saying she's inevitable for the general either. But many on MyDD are.


by skjold on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:56:28 PM EST
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Re: please link where she claimed that (2.00 / 2)

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/2 6/eveningnews/main3540666.shtml

"I think everybody should just take a deep breath and say 'let's just go to the finish line,' which will be probably be midnight West Coast time on Feb. 5," she said.

Is she concerned Obama will get a major boost from Winfrey's enthusiastic fan base?

"No," Clinton said. "At the end of the day, it's among us as candidates. People will make their judgments. I'm proud to have my husband support me. It's wonderful to have someone with his knowledge and experience and incredible ability vouch for me campaign for me."

"If it's not you, how disappointed will you be?" Couric asked.

"Well, it will be me," she said.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V47-HRJUx mM


John McCain hates terrorists, except the ones that hate women. Those are just swell.
by terra on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:05:28 PM EST
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Re: please link where she claimed that (2.00 / 1)

"Well, it will be me," she said. Yep, sounds like the word 'inevitable' to me.
by skjold on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:07:43 PM EST
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oh my (none / 0)

All candidates put forth the "it will be me" line. Confidence and positive encouragement for the candidates supporters.


Washington Woman
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by kevin22262 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:22:10 PM EST
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Re: oh my (none / 0)

Really? I don't remember Obama ever doing that? I could be wrong though. If you find a quote, send it my way, will you?
by skjold on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:23:44 PM EST
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honestly (none / 0)

I do not care. It is silly that you are even arguing this line.

The one thing that really gets me is this.

WHY do some of you O supporters STILL spend so much time trying to rip and bash Hillary Clinton if you think/know that Obama has this wrapped up?

It boggles my mind.


Washington Woman
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EENR Blog
by kevin22262 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:27:16 PM EST
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Re: honestly (none / 0)

I didn't start the 'she didn't really say that', or 'it's just politics' argument. So I'll gladly drop it, because it is stupid.
by skjold on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:29:30 PM EST
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Nothing's Inevitable (2.00 / 1)

The only people who thought Hillary's candidacy was "inevitable" last fall were some pundits and relative newcomers to political campaigns. CEO's of major corporations who believe that their command of a market is permanent and inevitable usually end up being shown the door. Military commanders who believe their military victories are "inevitable" are very often quite surprised when that turns out not to be the case.
Instead of berating the Clinton campaign for having to change strategy and tactics, we should be acknowledging that - in fact - the ability to shift and adjust to change and to address the opponents offensives while not losing sight of her ultimate goal are exactly the capabilities we need in our next President. The measure of the quality of a campaign lies in whether the desired outcome is achieved. We still have four primaries and the meeting of Rules and ByLaws Committee - nothing is "inevitable" yet.
by pan230oh on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:56:39 PM EST

The media (none / 0)

made her into the inevitable candidate.


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by kevin22262 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:20:23 PM EST

Re: The media (none / 0)

She didn't exactly refute it, though. See the nice quote above.
by skjold on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:22:27 PM EST
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Re: The media (none / 0)

That is called politics. Give it a rest. I was NEVER on the inevitable bandwagon. I was an Edwards supporter.


Washington Woman
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by kevin22262 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:25:09 PM EST
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Re: The media (none / 0)

So is it 'politics as usual' here at MyDD that claims Hillary is a shoe-in for the general? Because that's what this diary addresses.
by skjold on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:27:52 PM EST
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haha (none / 0)

you just can not let it go can you?

Why don't you move on to a more important subject... like... hmmm... like maybe the grass needs watering.


Washington Woman
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EENR Blog
by kevin22262 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:32:36 PM EST
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Oh, I'm just responding to your comments (none / 0)

good sir. I thought that was common for the author of a diary to do?
by skjold on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:41:17 PM EST
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Re: Inevitability (none / 0)

Look, they all made that case that Hillary was inevitable--and then the Junior Senator from Illinois crashed the party.

The candidate capable of taking down Hillary Clinton is more than capable of doing the same to John McCain.


"The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."
by AK Democrat on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:35:30 PM EST

Re: Inevitability (none / 0)

Looks about the same to me.
by skjold on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:38:48 PM EST
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