Map Not The Math

The latest Clinton argument is 'Map Not the Math.' They have won the important swing states. They have won the most electoral votes. And according to them, that makes them the strongest candidate going into the general.

Now that is interesting argument, but history just doesn't back it up.

In 2004, John Kerry won every state but 4 giving him 505 E.Vs to 33. And don't think those 4 states were vital swing states, they were VT, NC, SC, and OK. How did that work out for us?

In 2000, Al Gore won every single state. All the swing states included. Even if you think Al should have taken the oath in 2001, if our argument is winning more E.V.s in the primary makes you a stronger general election candidate, why did the 2000 election come down to just 534 votes in FL anyway?

And perhaps the Clintons would care to explain if winning a state in the primary is so important to the general why Bill won the FL and TX primaries in 92, yet lost those states in the general? He also won MD, MA, and NH in the 92 general yet lost those states in the primary. What happened there?

There are many arguments that can be made as to why Hillary might be a stronger candidate in the general than Barack, but please, please don't disrespect the voters intelligence by saying it is the 'Map Not the Math,' when very clearly, it isn't.



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Re: Map Not The Math (2.00 / 3)

What's the next ridiculous meme after 'map, not the math'?

How about,'Entitlement, Not Democracy'?


Let the children lose it Let the children use it Let all the children boogie
by toyomama on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:24:19 PM EST

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please don't disrespect the voters intelligence by saying it is the 'Map Not the Math,' when very clearly, it isn't.

- So what is it ?


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:27:08 PM EST

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It's the math and the fundraising/gotv/campaigning ability of the candidate.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:46:26 PM EST
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Re: Map Not The Math (2.00 / 2)

It's West Virginia. West Virginia means she's going to win the general. Nevermind that winning the primary doesn't mean you win the general election version. Nevermind that Missouri also voted for the winner for decades, and Obama won that. Nevermind that those victories where West Virginia were won were by a minimum of 20+ electoral votes, meaning WV's wasn't even the tiebreaker.

West Virginia...the Alamo. Hell, why even allow any other place to vote this November? Just hold the polls in WV.


John McCain hates terrorists, except the ones that hate women. Those are just swell.
by terra on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:34:13 PM EST

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what do you mean them? I thought you want unity?


Welcome to a Landslide without white Working class, Latinos, Women, Seniors and holding-on sweeties
by engels on Sat May 17, 2008 at 01:48:20 PM EST

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Acceptance, then unity.


should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?
by Firewall on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:12:05 PM EST
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then sorry: you can wait for acceptance another 100 years


Welcome to a Landslide without white Working class, Latinos, Women, Seniors and holding-on sweeties
by engels on Sat May 17, 2008 at 04:33:50 PM EST
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Under a winner take all system, Hillary would have won.  Under the "only big states should count" argument, Hilllary would have won.  Under the "only West Virginia should count" rules, Hillary would have won. Running a smarter campaign, Hillary would have won.  Voting against Iraq, Hillary would have won.  

Woulda, coulda, shoulda.  


by Rick in Eugene on Sat May 17, 2008 at 03:06:55 PM EST


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